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	<title>Comments on: County OKs outsourcing of Sierra Youth Center operations</title>
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		<title>By: Follower</title>
		<link>http://www.watchsonomacounty.com/2013/02/county/county-oks-outsourcing-of-sierra-youth-center-operations/#comment-1242709</link>
		<dc:creator>Follower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 15:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Bear
Let me inform you about NOT outsourcing.

First a committee is formed to study the needs by appointing people who have earned favors from our elected officials. $

Then recommendations are forwarded via the committee’s report and vuala! 

A brand spanking new baby bureaucracy is born. $$

Now the few productive people in Government get handed new tasks and responsibilities that they can’t handle because they’re already doing the laundry for all the other bureaucracies.
So they “staff up”. $$$

New staff means new facilities and new equipment and maintenance for all the new facilities and equipment. $$$$

The already over taxed maintenance staff can’t handle the new responsibilities so guess what… 

THEY OUTSOURCE IT!!$$$$$
(So much for NOT outsourcing!)

Now we have a new bureaucracy to support, new contracts with private firms to do the work that the bureaucracy can’t handle and what have we accomplished?

BIGGER GOVERNMENT!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Bear<br />
Let me inform you about NOT outsourcing.</p>
<p>First a committee is formed to study the needs by appointing people who have earned favors from our elected officials. $</p>
<p>Then recommendations are forwarded via the committee’s report and vuala! </p>
<p>A brand spanking new baby bureaucracy is born. $$</p>
<p>Now the few productive people in Government get handed new tasks and responsibilities that they can’t handle because they’re already doing the laundry for all the other bureaucracies.<br />
So they “staff up”. $$$</p>
<p>New staff means new facilities and new equipment and maintenance for all the new facilities and equipment. $$$$</p>
<p>The already over taxed maintenance staff can’t handle the new responsibilities so guess what… </p>
<p>THEY OUTSOURCE IT!!$$$$$<br />
(So much for NOT outsourcing!)</p>
<p>Now we have a new bureaucracy to support, new contracts with private firms to do the work that the bureaucracy can’t handle and what have we accomplished?</p>
<p>BIGGER GOVERNMENT!</p>
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		<title>By: GAJ</title>
		<link>http://www.watchsonomacounty.com/2013/02/county/county-oks-outsourcing-of-sierra-youth-center-operations/#comment-1242435</link>
		<dc:creator>GAJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2013 22:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bear, my daughter is 28 and has had a roommate virtually since the day she left home.

She works for the State and doesn&#039;t make minimum wage.

I&#039;ve had a roommate since the day I left HS...in college 4 of us shared a house.  I don&#039;t recall it being a tragic burden at all...it was a necessity.

Sure, my roommate today is my wife (we both worked f/t) and my daughter&#039;s roommate is now her &quot;life partner&quot; so it far from unusual, bizarre or new.

Not that long ago it was COMMON for three generations to live under the same roof.

Why do you imply that a &quot;real&quot; job MUST be a lifetime job and ensure that someone can afford to buy a house and support a family of four?

That&#039;s never been a realistic goal...despite what you may have seen on TV.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bear, my daughter is 28 and has had a roommate virtually since the day she left home.</p>
<p>She works for the State and doesn&#8217;t make minimum wage.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had a roommate since the day I left HS&#8230;in college 4 of us shared a house.  I don&#8217;t recall it being a tragic burden at all&#8230;it was a necessity.</p>
<p>Sure, my roommate today is my wife (we both worked f/t) and my daughter&#8217;s roommate is now her &#8220;life partner&#8221; so it far from unusual, bizarre or new.</p>
<p>Not that long ago it was COMMON for three generations to live under the same roof.</p>
<p>Why do you imply that a &#8220;real&#8221; job MUST be a lifetime job and ensure that someone can afford to buy a house and support a family of four?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s never been a realistic goal&#8230;despite what you may have seen on TV.</p>
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		<title>By: bear</title>
		<link>http://www.watchsonomacounty.com/2013/02/county/county-oks-outsourcing-of-sierra-youth-center-operations/#comment-1242395</link>
		<dc:creator>bear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2013 20:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let me inform you about outsourcing.  This means hiring private corporations to provide services previously provided by government.

I have said MANY times that you could outsource all government services.  Here&#039;s how it would go:

The first year you would get a great deal, and save a lot of money.

The second year there would be &quot;cost-of-living&quot; increases, and &quot;equipment maintenance charges,&quot; and &quot;overcapacity charges&quot; - all designed to maintain the corporate profits of the contractor.

By the third year, we&#039;d likely be getting lawsuits due to serious mistakes by minimum wage employees.  Somebody gets shot, somebody has a crash, whatever.  Then the $250/hour lawyers would negotiate deals.  Only if government lawyers were contracted out, the rate would be closer to $500/hour.

Naturally, the minimum wage employees will not be spending money at a lot of businesses, would be unable to save much, and would retire at age 67 (?) with little hope for decent SS or Medicare - because these programs would be defunded by lower wages, or simply not participated in by local governments.

That&#039;s happening now.  

Some have suggested that such employees just &quot;get roommates,&quot; or that they will climb to higher paid jobs.  I don&#039;t think you&#039;re seeing our economy clearly.

If you had kids, you might care about these trends.

If you eliminate all middle class jobs, you will not have a middle class.  Welcome to the &quot;Middle&quot; Ages.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me inform you about outsourcing.  This means hiring private corporations to provide services previously provided by government.</p>
<p>I have said MANY times that you could outsource all government services.  Here&#8217;s how it would go:</p>
<p>The first year you would get a great deal, and save a lot of money.</p>
<p>The second year there would be &#8220;cost-of-living&#8221; increases, and &#8220;equipment maintenance charges,&#8221; and &#8220;overcapacity charges&#8221; &#8211; all designed to maintain the corporate profits of the contractor.</p>
<p>By the third year, we&#8217;d likely be getting lawsuits due to serious mistakes by minimum wage employees.  Somebody gets shot, somebody has a crash, whatever.  Then the $250/hour lawyers would negotiate deals.  Only if government lawyers were contracted out, the rate would be closer to $500/hour.</p>
<p>Naturally, the minimum wage employees will not be spending money at a lot of businesses, would be unable to save much, and would retire at age 67 (?) with little hope for decent SS or Medicare &#8211; because these programs would be defunded by lower wages, or simply not participated in by local governments.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s happening now.  </p>
<p>Some have suggested that such employees just &#8220;get roommates,&#8221; or that they will climb to higher paid jobs.  I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;re seeing our economy clearly.</p>
<p>If you had kids, you might care about these trends.</p>
<p>If you eliminate all middle class jobs, you will not have a middle class.  Welcome to the &#8220;Middle&#8221; Ages.</p>
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		<title>By: Snarky</title>
		<link>http://www.watchsonomacounty.com/2013/02/county/county-oks-outsourcing-of-sierra-youth-center-operations/#comment-1242040</link>
		<dc:creator>Snarky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2013 02:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Allow me to update myself with regard to the innocent bystanders being wounded by police gunfire in Southern California yesterday.

Thanks to a very dangerous, out of control mob mentality of the police, there were actually two separate incidents in Torrance, California, where two innocent bystanders were shot by police and in an entirely different shooting, a third innocent bystander was also shot by police.

That makes three innocent bystanders who were shot by police.

Worse yet, the police shot those bystanders without even looking to see who they were shooting at.

You see, they were supposedly searching for and shooting at a very large black male... and ended up shooting two elderly females.

Do you agree with me that those police officers should be prosecuted for shooting innocent civilians when the suspect was not even in the area ?  Since when are police allowed to shoot at will without even seeing clearly who they are shooting at ?

The police excuse? The vehicle was similar to the suspects. Yep. They shot a vehicle with over a dozen shots  because they &quot;thought&quot; the suspect might be inside. The two women are not dead but wounded and requiring medical care for gunshot wounds.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Allow me to update myself with regard to the innocent bystanders being wounded by police gunfire in Southern California yesterday.</p>
<p>Thanks to a very dangerous, out of control mob mentality of the police, there were actually two separate incidents in Torrance, California, where two innocent bystanders were shot by police and in an entirely different shooting, a third innocent bystander was also shot by police.</p>
<p>That makes three innocent bystanders who were shot by police.</p>
<p>Worse yet, the police shot those bystanders without even looking to see who they were shooting at.</p>
<p>You see, they were supposedly searching for and shooting at a very large black male&#8230; and ended up shooting two elderly females.</p>
<p>Do you agree with me that those police officers should be prosecuted for shooting innocent civilians when the suspect was not even in the area ?  Since when are police allowed to shoot at will without even seeing clearly who they are shooting at ?</p>
<p>The police excuse? The vehicle was similar to the suspects. Yep. They shot a vehicle with over a dozen shots  because they &#8220;thought&#8221; the suspect might be inside. The two women are not dead but wounded and requiring medical care for gunshot wounds.</p>
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		<title>By: Snarky</title>
		<link>http://www.watchsonomacounty.com/2013/02/county/county-oks-outsourcing-of-sierra-youth-center-operations/#comment-1241621</link>
		<dc:creator>Snarky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 18:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As I pointed out once before, outsourcing the job to the private sector might not be such a bad idea.

A former cop in killing people right now in southern california.

While searching for him, the cops have already shot and wounded two innocent women who were merely delivering newspapers but happened to have a similar vehicle as the killer cop.

AND the LA Sheriff&#039;s Office is firing 7 of its deputies for belonging to their own criminal on duty gang.

Public employees are NOT necessarily the best quality bunch. Outsourcing the jobs where we can not only saves public money but often results in higher quality employees.

Imagine the two innocent wounded women. Shot by cops eager to play &quot;hero&quot; and bring down the killer cop on the loose.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I pointed out once before, outsourcing the job to the private sector might not be such a bad idea.</p>
<p>A former cop in killing people right now in southern california.</p>
<p>While searching for him, the cops have already shot and wounded two innocent women who were merely delivering newspapers but happened to have a similar vehicle as the killer cop.</p>
<p>AND the LA Sheriff&#8217;s Office is firing 7 of its deputies for belonging to their own criminal on duty gang.</p>
<p>Public employees are NOT necessarily the best quality bunch. Outsourcing the jobs where we can not only saves public money but often results in higher quality employees.</p>
<p>Imagine the two innocent wounded women. Shot by cops eager to play &#8220;hero&#8221; and bring down the killer cop on the loose.</p>
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