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	<title>Comments on: County, labor leaders await outcome of contract vote</title>
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		<title>By: MOCKINGBIRD</title>
		<link>http://www.watchsonomacounty.com/2013/02/county/county-labor-leaders-await-outcome-of-contract-vote/#comment-1254303</link>
		<dc:creator>MOCKINGBIRD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2013 16:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is no rule that management and the unrepresented need to wait until everyone got their contract.  In 2008 they WENT FIRST, then imposed the contract on SEIU.  

I believe that the county has made &quot;promises&quot; to do something about the manager to rank and file ratio and their pensionable perks that they don&#039;t intend to keep.  Not only that, but they are balancing the budget on the backs of the rank and file AGAIN while adding new management positions.  Meanwhile they GET TO KEEP THE 3% RAISE THEY GOT BUT THE RANK AND FILE DIDN&#039;T GET, while the rank and file takehome pay will immediately go down 2.25%.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no rule that management and the unrepresented need to wait until everyone got their contract.  In 2008 they WENT FIRST, then imposed the contract on SEIU.  </p>
<p>I believe that the county has made &#8220;promises&#8221; to do something about the manager to rank and file ratio and their pensionable perks that they don&#8217;t intend to keep.  Not only that, but they are balancing the budget on the backs of the rank and file AGAIN while adding new management positions.  Meanwhile they GET TO KEEP THE 3% RAISE THEY GOT BUT THE RANK AND FILE DIDN&#8217;T GET, while the rank and file takehome pay will immediately go down 2.25%.</p>
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		<title>By: chuck reilly</title>
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		<dc:creator>chuck reilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 03:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I say we let these Public Employees strike.  Like Ronald Reagan, we can bring in substitutes.

I dare ANY of them to try working in Private Industry - for real companies.  They&#039;d suffer a 30% cut in wages and benefits and would forced in produce or move on ....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say we let these Public Employees strike.  Like Ronald Reagan, we can bring in substitutes.</p>
<p>I dare ANY of them to try working in Private Industry &#8211; for real companies.  They&#8217;d suffer a 30% cut in wages and benefits and would forced in produce or move on &#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Tired of Lies</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tired of Lies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 01:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Agreement by a majority of unionized employees also is needed before tentative pay and pension cuts for managers, elected officials and other non-union workers go into effect.&quot; 

Once again LIES!!! There is no contract &quot;NEEDED&quot; to have these cuts to the non-represented staff. As line staff, the bargaining team, and SEIU have been told ON REPEAT we have no right to bargain for administration or management. But, oh wait, that is only the case when it is convenient and we are not being made to be the &quot;bad guys&quot; holding up cuts. 

Press Democrat why do you keep spouting this? The County could have put into place cuts to admin and management (which have NOT taken place in the last TWO contracts with line staff) MONTHS ago. They CHOSE not to. How much public tax money would we have saved if they had been enacted six months ago? I am tired of reading this bull!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Agreement by a majority of unionized employees also is needed before tentative pay and pension cuts for managers, elected officials and other non-union workers go into effect.&#8221; </p>
<p>Once again LIES!!! There is no contract &#8220;NEEDED&#8221; to have these cuts to the non-represented staff. As line staff, the bargaining team, and SEIU have been told ON REPEAT we have no right to bargain for administration or management. But, oh wait, that is only the case when it is convenient and we are not being made to be the &#8220;bad guys&#8221; holding up cuts. </p>
<p>Press Democrat why do you keep spouting this? The County could have put into place cuts to admin and management (which have NOT taken place in the last TWO contracts with line staff) MONTHS ago. They CHOSE not to. How much public tax money would we have saved if they had been enacted six months ago? I am tired of reading this bull!</p>
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