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	<title>Comments on: Santa Rosa City Council members get iPads to cut down on paper reports</title>
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		<title>By: Snarky</title>
		<link>http://www.watchsonomacounty.com/2013/02/cities/santa-rosa-city-council-members-get-ipads-to-cut-down-on-paper-reports/#comment-1251496</link>
		<dc:creator>Snarky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2013 23:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[James &amp; Grapevines:

You neglect the benefit that those new I-Pads provide to the government.

Those I-Pads make them look as if they are cutting edge in this world (even though they probably can&#039;t do anything other than use the email function and play checkers).

You see. Its all about &quot;appearance&quot; in government. Anything to pretend importance and anything to pretend competence.

Actual job skills and actual expertise do not matter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James &amp; Grapevines:</p>
<p>You neglect the benefit that those new I-Pads provide to the government.</p>
<p>Those I-Pads make them look as if they are cutting edge in this world (even though they probably can&#8217;t do anything other than use the email function and play checkers).</p>
<p>You see. Its all about &#8220;appearance&#8221; in government. Anything to pretend importance and anything to pretend competence.</p>
<p>Actual job skills and actual expertise do not matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Steveguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steveguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2013 20:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK, if ya want to go all digital- then post every budget and where the money comes from and who the money goes to. With comparisons to contributors to campaigns. 

Yes, EVERY expenditure down to a receipt for gas ! With a normal spreadsheet or &#039;profit/loss&#039; statement ! Heck, as a contractor that did work for the City of Santa Rosa, the County of Sonoma, many School districts and the Coast Guard, I can tell you that an easy check on finances and bank records are easy to come by in the private enterprise sector.  

By the way, some or most all of my bids for &#039;govmint work&#039; were for &#039;prevailing wages&#039;. Made some bank sometimes, but felt kinda dirty, so I always upped my game to make my expertise pay off. For other jobs I could charge the private sector more than prevailing wage, and was OK with that ( investments in equipment, tools, expertise, etc ). 

I wouldn&#039;t care that a Parks Dept expenditure was published to my company in an expense report, as that would be further advertising. 

Use this occasion to publish EVERY electronic instance ! We pay them ! The records are OURS ! 

Yet the PD has to sue ( kudos for the Press Democrat for that ) for meager records and are fought. Thank the Courts for the wins. 

Last note- The Coasties are the most awesome place for local skilled workers. They pay a bit less and the security is a pain, but after that the Coast Guard procurement guys have it down for small local contractors and treat them very well. They pay fast and everyone is happy for not gouging them. They pay fair, even when a problem comes. Just smart management and a cafeteria for cheap ! I have had the privilege of my son working there tearing out my old work from when he was a mere child. Yes sir !]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, if ya want to go all digital- then post every budget and where the money comes from and who the money goes to. With comparisons to contributors to campaigns. </p>
<p>Yes, EVERY expenditure down to a receipt for gas ! With a normal spreadsheet or &#8216;profit/loss&#8217; statement ! Heck, as a contractor that did work for the City of Santa Rosa, the County of Sonoma, many School districts and the Coast Guard, I can tell you that an easy check on finances and bank records are easy to come by in the private enterprise sector.  </p>
<p>By the way, some or most all of my bids for &#8216;govmint work&#8217; were for &#8216;prevailing wages&#8217;. Made some bank sometimes, but felt kinda dirty, so I always upped my game to make my expertise pay off. For other jobs I could charge the private sector more than prevailing wage, and was OK with that ( investments in equipment, tools, expertise, etc ). </p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t care that a Parks Dept expenditure was published to my company in an expense report, as that would be further advertising. </p>
<p>Use this occasion to publish EVERY electronic instance ! We pay them ! The records are OURS ! </p>
<p>Yet the PD has to sue ( kudos for the Press Democrat for that ) for meager records and are fought. Thank the Courts for the wins. </p>
<p>Last note- The Coasties are the most awesome place for local skilled workers. They pay a bit less and the security is a pain, but after that the Coast Guard procurement guys have it down for small local contractors and treat them very well. They pay fast and everyone is happy for not gouging them. They pay fair, even when a problem comes. Just smart management and a cafeteria for cheap ! I have had the privilege of my son working there tearing out my old work from when he was a mere child. Yes sir !</p>
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		<title>By: Steveguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steveguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2013 19:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While I would hope that they can see documents on a tablet of sorts, there is nothing like the hard copies to be able to understand many things. 

Example-  Referring back to some subsection or ahead to an addendum is far easier with paper than clicking around and waiting for it. Far easier in my opinion. Just because you can put it on a computer doesn&#039;t make it better. I have experienced that MANY times. 

A bought and paid for political system without a paper trail is far worse than our bought and paid for political system as it operates now. 

Let them have a gizmo, but only for reading. If e-mails allowed, make them publish EVERY e-mail ( besides private family ones).  Even those received !]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I would hope that they can see documents on a tablet of sorts, there is nothing like the hard copies to be able to understand many things. </p>
<p>Example-  Referring back to some subsection or ahead to an addendum is far easier with paper than clicking around and waiting for it. Far easier in my opinion. Just because you can put it on a computer doesn&#8217;t make it better. I have experienced that MANY times. </p>
<p>A bought and paid for political system without a paper trail is far worse than our bought and paid for political system as it operates now. </p>
<p>Let them have a gizmo, but only for reading. If e-mails allowed, make them publish EVERY e-mail ( besides private family ones).  Even those received !</p>
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		<title>By: James Bennett</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2013 16:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[These public servants (a novel term coined from days gone by) should never be able to circumvent one of the most important instruments of transparency we have; THE PAPER TRAIL.



The City is already more than cagey regarding our FOIA requests.



This, along with the empowerment of unelected boards, commissions and NGOs. These groups set directive and changing policy before the people even know about it.



Now this.



Forgive me, but employing a policy that requires trust to retain correspondence that should be public record under our current treasonous circumstances doesn&#039;t strike me as a good idea.



NO. We want paper trails of correspondence. This is a major component of representative government.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These public servants (a novel term coined from days gone by) should never be able to circumvent one of the most important instruments of transparency we have; THE PAPER TRAIL.</p>
<p>The City is already more than cagey regarding our FOIA requests.</p>
<p>This, along with the empowerment of unelected boards, commissions and NGOs. These groups set directive and changing policy before the people even know about it.</p>
<p>Now this.</p>
<p>Forgive me, but employing a policy that requires trust to retain correspondence that should be public record under our current treasonous circumstances doesn&#8217;t strike me as a good idea.</p>
<p>NO. We want paper trails of correspondence. This is a major component of representative government.</p>
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		<title>By: Grapevines</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grapevines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2013 15:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They better turn off the wifi in the council chambers because the first time anything comes up regarding either the west side of town or (horrors) Roseland, most of the jerks on the council will be playing &quot;Words With Friends&quot; on those iPads.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They better turn off the wifi in the council chambers because the first time anything comes up regarding either the west side of town or (horrors) Roseland, most of the jerks on the council will be playing &#8220;Words With Friends&#8221; on those iPads.</p>
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		<title>By: Whine Country Romance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Whine Country Romance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2013 01:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The article could have also been titled... &quot;SR City Council chooses iPads for more efficient mismanagement.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The article could have also been titled&#8230; &#8220;SR City Council chooses iPads for more efficient mismanagement.&#8221;</p>
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