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	<title>Comments on: Sonoma County planners to weigh parking fee proposal for state beaches</title>
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		<title>By: Reality Check</title>
		<link>http://www.watchsonomacounty.com/2013/01/sacramento/sonoma-county-planners-to-weigh-parking-fee-proposal-for-state-beaches/#comment-1195003</link>
		<dc:creator>Reality Check</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 14:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Expecting users of a park to pay something to maintain it is &quot;government . . .  creating criminals by passing, implementing and enforcing draconian laws . . .&quot;?  Wow!

Who, if not the users, should pay the cost of maintaining a park?  Presumably, you free loaders want non-users to pay.  The fact is that even the most popular park is used only by a small portion of the population.

Yep, user fees are a nuisance sometimes.  But they&#039;re also the fairest way to pay for something.  For reasons that defy understanding, some right-wing knuckle-draggers oppose socialism but always bellyache if asked to pay for anything.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Expecting users of a park to pay something to maintain it is &#8220;government . . .  creating criminals by passing, implementing and enforcing draconian laws . . .&#8221;?  Wow!</p>
<p>Who, if not the users, should pay the cost of maintaining a park?  Presumably, you free loaders want non-users to pay.  The fact is that even the most popular park is used only by a small portion of the population.</p>
<p>Yep, user fees are a nuisance sometimes.  But they&#8217;re also the fairest way to pay for something.  For reasons that defy understanding, some right-wing knuckle-draggers oppose socialism but always bellyache if asked to pay for anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Van</title>
		<link>http://www.watchsonomacounty.com/2013/01/sacramento/sonoma-county-planners-to-weigh-parking-fee-proposal-for-state-beaches/#comment-1193803</link>
		<dc:creator>Van</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 02:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They tried to impose fees in Anza-Borrego State Park some time ago. It went over like a lead balloon. Not only did things not go well, but people became down right criminals running down kiosk and taking to them with bats. But as well all know, the government is good at creating criminals by passing, implementing and enforcing draconian laws which are in their own right criminal. It is possible to fight government, even if it must come to this. If we had as much passion about what our government is forcing us to do on a daily basis as we are a lousy entry fee to a beach, I would be hopeful for a freer and better society. I&#039;m not holding my breath.

Storm ahead, take next exit................]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They tried to impose fees in Anza-Borrego State Park some time ago. It went over like a lead balloon. Not only did things not go well, but people became down right criminals running down kiosk and taking to them with bats. But as well all know, the government is good at creating criminals by passing, implementing and enforcing draconian laws which are in their own right criminal. It is possible to fight government, even if it must come to this. If we had as much passion about what our government is forcing us to do on a daily basis as we are a lousy entry fee to a beach, I would be hopeful for a freer and better society. I&#8217;m not holding my breath.</p>
<p>Storm ahead, take next exit&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Steveguy</title>
		<link>http://www.watchsonomacounty.com/2013/01/sacramento/sonoma-county-planners-to-weigh-parking-fee-proposal-for-state-beaches/#comment-1165457</link>
		<dc:creator>Steveguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 20:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ya, charge for a memorial spot for many a loved one. 

I am more than willing to pay at Doran Beach, the Dunes and other spots, this parking fee is inhumane ! Subhuman in my honest opinion. 

I suppose now we will need more coast cops to catch those cutting off the iron rangers and tossing them ceremoniously into the ocean. 

Beware messing with peoples memorial spots. Many ashes have been scattered at the &#039;free spots&#039;. We already pay.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya, charge for a memorial spot for many a loved one. </p>
<p>I am more than willing to pay at Doran Beach, the Dunes and other spots, this parking fee is inhumane ! Subhuman in my honest opinion. </p>
<p>I suppose now we will need more coast cops to catch those cutting off the iron rangers and tossing them ceremoniously into the ocean. </p>
<p>Beware messing with peoples memorial spots. Many ashes have been scattered at the &#8216;free spots&#8217;. We already pay.</p>
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		<title>By: Grapevines</title>
		<link>http://www.watchsonomacounty.com/2013/01/sacramento/sonoma-county-planners-to-weigh-parking-fee-proposal-for-state-beaches/#comment-1165402</link>
		<dc:creator>Grapevines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So I guess Proposition 30 just whetted their appetites didn&#039;t it?  Sacramento figures that they got that passed and now lets hit them up with fees to park at the beach.  When are you people who voted in this &quot;super majority&quot; going to realize that you have your heads firmly stuck up your backsides?

Do you really think that if we let this happen, it will ever stop?  We pay the highest taxes in the country right now, and are getting the lowest service for doing so.  What we are getting is Sacramento not addressing where the tax dollars we pay are being wasted at!

Salary increases for legislative staffers!  How many of us have see pay raises?  Unless your working for the State, darn few of you have.  How about the plush retirement benefits for State employee&#039;s?  How many of us that pay for them are getting anywhere near what they are?  And this just is scratching the surface of waste.  Bullet trains to nowhere, cushy jobs for voted out legislatures, and a water project from hell (didn&#039;t we vote no on the canal addition a few years back?)

What&#039;s next??  Pay booth&#039;s at rest stops along the highway along with parking meters there?  Wouldn&#039;t surprise me.  Let them stick this to us and there will be no end to Sacramento sticking it&#039;s hand further and further into your pocket.  And fools keep voting in the same jerks doing the same thing and hoping things will change?  When will anyone open their eyes and think for a change?

Probably not in my lifetime!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I guess Proposition 30 just whetted their appetites didn&#8217;t it?  Sacramento figures that they got that passed and now lets hit them up with fees to park at the beach.  When are you people who voted in this &#8220;super majority&#8221; going to realize that you have your heads firmly stuck up your backsides?</p>
<p>Do you really think that if we let this happen, it will ever stop?  We pay the highest taxes in the country right now, and are getting the lowest service for doing so.  What we are getting is Sacramento not addressing where the tax dollars we pay are being wasted at!</p>
<p>Salary increases for legislative staffers!  How many of us have see pay raises?  Unless your working for the State, darn few of you have.  How about the plush retirement benefits for State employee&#8217;s?  How many of us that pay for them are getting anywhere near what they are?  And this just is scratching the surface of waste.  Bullet trains to nowhere, cushy jobs for voted out legislatures, and a water project from hell (didn&#8217;t we vote no on the canal addition a few years back?)</p>
<p>What&#8217;s next??  Pay booth&#8217;s at rest stops along the highway along with parking meters there?  Wouldn&#8217;t surprise me.  Let them stick this to us and there will be no end to Sacramento sticking it&#8217;s hand further and further into your pocket.  And fools keep voting in the same jerks doing the same thing and hoping things will change?  When will anyone open their eyes and think for a change?</p>
<p>Probably not in my lifetime!</p>
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		<title>By: R.B. Fish</title>
		<link>http://www.watchsonomacounty.com/2013/01/sacramento/sonoma-county-planners-to-weigh-parking-fee-proposal-for-state-beaches/#comment-1164873</link>
		<dc:creator>R.B. Fish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 03:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The parks fees have been paid for by taxpayers. NO new fees. I will discontinue my visits and membership pass and not stop for lunch in Bodega and Jenner. When no one pays lobs will be lost.Traffic will build up along the turnouts and accidents will increase.

If you ant to charge someone for using the beach charge the surfers who use it all the time. See what happens.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The parks fees have been paid for by taxpayers. NO new fees. I will discontinue my visits and membership pass and not stop for lunch in Bodega and Jenner. When no one pays lobs will be lost.Traffic will build up along the turnouts and accidents will increase.</p>
<p>If you ant to charge someone for using the beach charge the surfers who use it all the time. See what happens.</p>
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		<title>By: Juvenal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juvenal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 01:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Everyone likes money, and no one like to be charged for what up until the present has been free.  I would point out, though, that County Regional Parks has been charging, for parking forever. If this plan goes forward, I suggest 1) yearly passes, like the County employs; and 2) some monetary consideration for those living in these areas.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone likes money, and no one like to be charged for what up until the present has been free.  I would point out, though, that County Regional Parks has been charging, for parking forever. If this plan goes forward, I suggest 1) yearly passes, like the County employs; and 2) some monetary consideration for those living in these areas.</p>
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		<title>By: James Bennett</title>
		<link>http://www.watchsonomacounty.com/2013/01/sacramento/sonoma-county-planners-to-weigh-parking-fee-proposal-for-state-beaches/#comment-1163893</link>
		<dc:creator>James Bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 20:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This &quot;newspaper&quot; reads like an UN Agenda 21 implementation manual.

We pay (paid) for the right use the beaches.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This &#8220;newspaper&#8221; reads like an UN Agenda 21 implementation manual.</p>
<p>We pay (paid) for the right use the beaches.</p>
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