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	<title>Comments on: Petaluma garbage rates to increase 6%</title>
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		<title>By: James Bennett</title>
		<link>http://www.watchsonomacounty.com/2012/11/cities/petaluma-garbage-rates-to-increase-6/#comment-723664</link>
		<dc:creator>James Bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2012 00:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Extortion, &quot;partnerships&quot; in gaming, trash collection deals. 
Picking winners and losers.

They just don&#039;t call it vig.

People would get the wrong idea.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Extortion, &#8220;partnerships&#8221; in gaming, trash collection deals.<br />
Picking winners and losers.</p>
<p>They just don&#8217;t call it vig.</p>
<p>People would get the wrong idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Who pays the $500,000? Promises, promises.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Who pays the $500,000? Promises, promises.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2012 09:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[$500,000 in &quot;Free money&quot; for the General Fund?

While key environmental questions about the new garbage contract have thankfully been addressed, it remains unclear to ratepayers and to Council where the $500,000 per year paid to the General Fund will actually come from.

The Ratto Group, PR&amp;R and staff claim that &#039;it won&#039;t come from ratepayers.&#039; That&#039;s the same promise Ratto made to Santa Rosa with their $1.8 Million incentive payments. Similar claims were made by the Ratto Group to all the other cities to extend no-bid monopoly garbage contracts.

Either these collective multimillion dollar incentives come from ratepayers&#039; wallets, or from Ratto&#039;s profit margin. Ratto isn&#039;t operating a charitable organization, but rather a monopoly utility. If the millions are coming from his profits, then our garbage rates are set too high. If
the millions do come from our ratepayers&#039; payments, we&#039;ve been sold an expensive lie that this is &quot;free money&quot;.

Unfortunately, before signing the contract, the city council majority failed to have an independent, transparent audit of PR&amp;R and Ratto Group&#039;s charges and costs for Petaluma (and likewise in Santa Rosa and other cities) to demonstrably prove that this $500,000/year does not now, and will not, come from ratepayers. Apparently, the new contract won&#039;t do that auditing either.

This is why monopoly utility contracts are so often abused at the ratepayers&#039; expense. This is why bidding on monopoly contracts is a very good practice, but sadly not done here.

The Council failed to do their due diligence. Calling this $500,000 &quot;free money&quot; is a fairy tale, unless proven otherwise through regular, independent audits to assure ratepayers that we haven&#039;t been hit with a tax or slush fund through our garbage rates.

So - Press Democrat and Argus reporters - where is the verifiable proof, in writing, and independently and transparently auditable, that the $500,000 promised to the city&#039;s General Fund is NOT coming from ratepayers?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$500,000 in &#8220;Free money&#8221; for the General Fund?</p>
<p>While key environmental questions about the new garbage contract have thankfully been addressed, it remains unclear to ratepayers and to Council where the $500,000 per year paid to the General Fund will actually come from.</p>
<p>The Ratto Group, PR&amp;R and staff claim that &#8216;it won&#8217;t come from ratepayers.&#8217; That&#8217;s the same promise Ratto made to Santa Rosa with their $1.8 Million incentive payments. Similar claims were made by the Ratto Group to all the other cities to extend no-bid monopoly garbage contracts.</p>
<p>Either these collective multimillion dollar incentives come from ratepayers&#8217; wallets, or from Ratto&#8217;s profit margin. Ratto isn&#8217;t operating a charitable organization, but rather a monopoly utility. If the millions are coming from his profits, then our garbage rates are set too high. If<br />
the millions do come from our ratepayers&#8217; payments, we&#8217;ve been sold an expensive lie that this is &#8220;free money&#8221;.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, before signing the contract, the city council majority failed to have an independent, transparent audit of PR&amp;R and Ratto Group&#8217;s charges and costs for Petaluma (and likewise in Santa Rosa and other cities) to demonstrably prove that this $500,000/year does not now, and will not, come from ratepayers. Apparently, the new contract won&#8217;t do that auditing either.</p>
<p>This is why monopoly utility contracts are so often abused at the ratepayers&#8217; expense. This is why bidding on monopoly contracts is a very good practice, but sadly not done here.</p>
<p>The Council failed to do their due diligence. Calling this $500,000 &#8220;free money&#8221; is a fairy tale, unless proven otherwise through regular, independent audits to assure ratepayers that we haven&#8217;t been hit with a tax or slush fund through our garbage rates.</p>
<p>So &#8211; Press Democrat and Argus reporters &#8211; where is the verifiable proof, in writing, and independently and transparently auditable, that the $500,000 promised to the city&#8217;s General Fund is NOT coming from ratepayers?</p>
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		<title>By: Good choice</title>
		<link>http://www.watchsonomacounty.com/2012/11/cities/petaluma-garbage-rates-to-increase-6/#comment-711497</link>
		<dc:creator>Good choice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2012 00:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with the majority of the council, Glass, Albertson, Kearney, Harris &amp; Renee voting in favor of the extended garbage contract.  

I am willing to have my rate go up $2.80 per month in return for $500,000 a year to the city’s general fund.  Let&#039;s just hope the council uses this money properly and as stated -- on street and road repair and NOT on salaries and pensions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the majority of the council, Glass, Albertson, Kearney, Harris &amp; Renee voting in favor of the extended garbage contract.  </p>
<p>I am willing to have my rate go up $2.80 per month in return for $500,000 a year to the city’s general fund.  Let&#8217;s just hope the council uses this money properly and as stated &#8212; on street and road repair and NOT on salaries and pensions.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan J Drummond</title>
		<link>http://www.watchsonomacounty.com/2012/11/cities/petaluma-garbage-rates-to-increase-6/#comment-710995</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan J Drummond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 22:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They should anticipate a run on those smaller 20-gallon cans as customers switch from those big bad 95-gallon cans.

Recycle = thumbs-up
More landfills = thumbs-down]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They should anticipate a run on those smaller 20-gallon cans as customers switch from those big bad 95-gallon cans.</p>
<p>Recycle = thumbs-up<br />
More landfills = thumbs-down</p>
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